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Ventura: Do you know who he is? He's that famous guy who took out those full-page ads, "Throw the Bums Out." Remember those? "Throw the Bums Out!"
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Gargan: It exploded. And before it ran its course - four years, it ran '90, '91, '92, '93 - people sent me enough to money to run 633 of those full-page ads.Since then, Gargan has run unsuccessfully for governor and congressman in Florida under the Reform and Independence Party banners, but now he says Jesse Ventura is the light of the nation's anti-incumbent political movement.
Gargan: Instead of getting involved in the kinds of things that the governor is doing up there, an exemplary job of getting people excited, we've kind of drifted along here recently, and it gives, unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, it gives the impression that the party is being held together for somebody's use, down the road a bit.Gargan and Ventura share the belief that the national Reform Party needs to distance itself from its founder and two-time presidential candidate, Texas billionaire Ross Perot. In fact, Perot himself does not officially run the party anymore; that job belongs to party chairman Russ Verney, a former Perot campaign adviser. From his Dallas office, Verney rejects the notion that Perot's influence somehow taints the party.
Verney: It's not who is overshadowing the party, there's plenty of room for people who want to work and come in and join the party. There's no room for people who want to be annointed and take over.Verney says he's not sure yet whether he'll run for re-election as party chairman, but he says he's encouraging as wide a contest as possible. With Ventura's public endorsement of Gargan, the party leadership election is beginning to shape up as a battle between Perot loyalists and the self-styled new guard, who are lining up behind Ventura, the party's biggest success story.
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